What is the Point?

[Richard OFfill]

A couple I don't know sent me a nicely prepared study. The point of the study is that there is no Holy Spirit as we think of it. That the Trinity is a concept of the Catholic church.

The other point in the book is that Jesus came  from the bosom of the Father, that is He has not always been.

Frankly I don't  get the point. If those who do believe in a Holy Spirit or that Jesus is eternal from forever, what will happen to us. Will we be lost? I have experienced the new birth. Jesus is the Lord of my life. I love Him with all my heart. He has given me a spirit of repentance and is giving me victory over sin and the Holy Spirit growing the Fruit of the Spirit in my life. I am not the only one. Is there something wrong with us?

The point is usually made that the early founding mothers and fathers of our church were Arians. That may be but then they were also at one time, pork-eating Sunday keepers.

[Raven]

Those who espouse some of these aberrant teachings apparently don't realize that by so doing they have placed Ellen White in the category of false prophet.  That opens up a whole new can of worms, and apostasy will be the end result.  The doctrine of the trinity is so well established that one must engage in a lot of "Scriptorture" to deny it.

[Larry Lyons]

It seems as though there is almost a steady persistent attempt on the part of anti trinitarians and feast keepers to draw away SDA church members to join them in their heretical beliefs.

[Soli Deo Gloria]

A couple I don't know sent me a nicely prepared study. The point of the study is that there is no Holy Spirit as we think of it. That the Trinity is a concept of the Catholic church.

The other point in the book is that Jesus came  from the bosom of the Father, that is He has not always been.

Frankly I don't  get the point. If those who do believe in a Holy Spirit or that Jesus is eternal from forever, what will happen to us. Will we be lost? I have experienced the new birth. Jesus is the Lord of my life. I love Him with all my heart. He has given me a spirit of repentance and is giving me victory over sin and the Holy Spirit growing the Fruit of the Spirit in my life. I am not the only one. Is there something wrong with us?

The point is usually made that the early founding mothers and fathers of our church were Arians. That may be but then they were also at one time, pork-eating Sunday keepers.

I will submit that those who deny the doctrine of the trinity and the eternal deity of Christ are not born again and will not see the Lord. They would not recognize him for who He is

Stan

[Larry Lyons]

I will submit that those who deny the doctrine of the trinity and the eternal deity of Christ are not born again and will not see the Lord. They would not recognize him for who He is

Stan

I agree Stan. Those who claim that the Trinity, as believed by most Protestant denominations is a Roman Catholic belief do not understand what the Catholics actually believe about the Trinity. They have also demoted Jesus Christ to a lessor role, as have  the JWs, the Muslims,  the Mormons, and the anti trinitarians.

[Richard OFfill]

By the way, there are those who say that our church is a cult. The truth is that the Catholic church is the mother of all cults.

[Ed Sutton]

They are still trying to discredit Scripture and call God what scripture says He ain't, and refuse to accept what scripture says He is.  Plus this is their way of Calling the SDA denomination Babylon.

A non person lifeless force, a mindless wind - does not speak to Paul and call Him, or decide for all believvers and tell James in time for the  Church Council in session to decide upon circumcision - a non person can not join with the Bride in all ages and say "come."

[newbie]

I agree Stan. Those who claim that the Trinity, as believed by most Protestant denominations is a Roman Catholic belief do not understand what the Catholics actually believe about the Trinity. They have also demoted Jesus Christ to a lessor role, as have  the JWs, the Muslims,  the Mormons, and the anti trinitarians.

Jesus is everything he says he is....  I am that I am.... He is the great I am.  He is God.  He is to be worshiped.  Isaiah says Jesus is the everlasting Father.  How clear is that?

[Ed Sutton]

I suppose the point is,

Misery loves company

Birds of a feather flock together

unbelief masquarading as faith in Scripture, want to make babies in their own image (converts) and Christians that endanger Satan's kingdom are the most desired subjects to try to turn into unbelieving converts, who say God's declarations of Scripture is a lie.

If we bad mouth Father God - we can be brought to repent. confess, be forgiven - reinstated.

If we bad mouth Jesus - we can be brought to repent, confess, be forgiven - reinstated.

If we bad mouth the Holy Ghost - He's the One who brought information into the heart, conviction into the soul, sufficent desire into the mind, and desire was made strong enough to surrender and accept and take in the gift of repentance, and the willingness and ability and follow through top repenting.      Mouth off to the Holy Ghost and carry the chip on the shoulder, no repentance, and repentance always preceeds / confession/forgiveness / reinstatement into willingly walking with God.

If the Holy Ghost can not persuade the sinner off his proud soap box, and to humble himself, circumstances might be tried next if the account limits of Divine patience are not met and exceeded.    God reads the inside, lingers till the last, but knows when to say "joined to their idols."   -  "let them alone" and the loyal angels obey the commission.

Sampson had eye trouble, everytime he set his eye on a woman he got in trouble, cause he didn't just look.

There were no such opportunities to view, while grinding grain after hot iron melted his eyeballs.   God went the length - sampson had praying family members back home.