Sabbath Question

[ColporteurK]

A very slippery slope. It would be very easy to divert off into "work" a lot of work. It is likely that people would want to taste test the samples. That means snacking.

[ColporteurK]

 
     In the news today "DUNKIN' DONUTS REFUSES TO HIRE SABBATH-KEEPER"

 That is interesting on more than one count. While it is not fair and reasonable to refuse to hire a Sabbath keeper  on the other hand, from the perspective of the church what is healthy about coffee and donuts ?  Perhaps the man is a new church member but maybe God is sending messages to all involved.

[newbie]

Tough call
need more information
is this the only job available?
We live in tough times.

[Ed Sutton]

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Re: Sabbath Question
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2014, 04:43:30 PM »
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What are your thoughts about a cooking class given on Sabbath afternoons?  Our church is doing it. 

Human options can not set policy of right or wrong with God, only God's Word and God's Testifying  ( SOP ) < what God has said >, can set such policies, principles, such teaching, such boundaries.  Because right and wrong are both results of God's work of Divine creation, when He created and delivered and explained such boundaries.   Such is a function of Divine rulership.

Exodus 16:4-30 

Cooking on the Sabbath should be avoided; but it is not therefore necessary to eat cold food. In cold weather the food prepared the day before should be heated. And let the meals, however simple, be palatable and attractive. Especially in families where there are children, it is well, on the Sabbath, to provide something that will be regarded as a treat, something the family do not have every day. 401 {CCh 226.2}

June 1, 2025 Cooking on the Sabbath.     By Mrs. E. G. White.   {RH, June 1, 2025 par. 1 - 11}  concluded - {RH, June 8, 2025 par. 1-17 }   

Deuteronomy 29:29

“Divided heart*” = 66 SOP hits

What the Revelation means to us - EGW article - {RH, August 31, 2025 par. 1 - 17} notice paragraph 16, regarding the army of the Lord.    Can any SDA have a heart single to God and cook on Sabbath after reading What Jesus has testified in Scripture & SOP ?   Satan is sly and when ever God limits something to do, or not do, at a specific time, or a specific place , Satan pushes the envelope to violate time, place, or content, or motives - whatever suits a divided practice and a divided heart.    The trap Balaam set for Israel in the desert and at BaalPeor .

Can righteousness by faith be extended to us as people or individuals with a stubbornly divided heart & life - knowing better, but acting out, known iniquity, doing what God forbids be done on Sabbath ? 

James 1: 
1 ¶  James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
2 ¶  My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
3  Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
4  But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.
5  If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6  But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
7  For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
8  A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.


( James “dead letter” ) = 2 hits    Read surrounding several paragraphs   {PH086 13.1 - 24.2}  notice “divided service” .

"double minded* " = 82 SOP quotes - there is helpful information there.

[ColporteurK]

What are your thoughts on taking the canoe out on a Sabbath afternoon ?

[newbie]

What are your thoughts on taking the canoe out on a Sabbath afternoon ?

depends on what you plan to do...
  shoot the rapids
  race
  fishing
  camping
  enjoying the scenery

[Ed Sutton]

There was a time EGW had them do vigorous boating on Sabbath. 

     
3SM - Selected Messages Book 3 (1980)    Chap. 29 - The Sabbath: Guiding Principles in Sabbath Observance

The Sabbath a Day of Service.--The first Sabbath of the week of prayer was a day of earnest activity. From "Sunnyside" and the school, two teams and a boat were sent to Dora Creek to bring to the meetings those who were not able to walk so far. The people had been invited to bring their lunch, and come to the meeting prepared to spend the day, and they responded freely to the invitation.  {3SM 258.5}
 
     Some were much surprised that we would exert ourselves on the Sabbath to bring them to the meeting. They had been taught that Sundaykeeping consisted largely in physical inactivity; and they thought that because we were zealous in the matter of Sabbathkeeping, we would keep it according to the teachings of the Pharisees.  {3SM 259.1} 

     We told our friends that in the matter of keeping the Sabbath, we studied the example and teachings of Christ whose Sabbaths were often spent in earnest effort to heal and to teach; that we believed that one of our sisters who was nursing a sick family was keeping the Sabbath as much as the one who was leading a division in the  Sabbath school; that Christ could not please the Pharisees of His day, and that we did not expect that our efforts to serve the Lord would satisfy the Pharisees of our day.--The Review and Herald, Oct. 18, 1898.  {3SM 259.2} 

     Sacred and Secular Activities.--The priests in the temple performed greater labor on the Sabbath than upon other days. The same labor in secular business would be sinful; but the work of the priests was in the service of God.--The Desire of Ages, p. 285.  {3SM 259.3}     

[ColporteurK]

Today a retired pastor and I had a firm disagreement in Sabbathschool regarding Sabbath observance. How would you respond ?  He said that some SDAs would go so far as to try to tell someone that rented his farmland that he cannot do work on his property on the Sabbath. The teacher and another handled this very well when they said, " why not rent the land to an SDA ?"  The pastor said that this would be making this a deal about money.  Huh ?I responded that people rent out property all the time with contingencies. Often home owners will not rent their house out to people with dogs and cats.

Well what if there were no SDAs in the area ? I don't see a problem at all with writing in the rental agreement that no work could be done on the Sabbath on the property. In Exodus 20:10 it says that no one within our gates is to work on Sabbath. The pastor said that we as SDAs tend to major in minors and minor with majors. In my mind verse 10 is clear enough.

     

[newbie]

never thought about it...

but for repairs and such and mowings we always stipulate no Saturdays..

good opportunity to witness as some people still have never heard about the Sabbath